Julia Hartley-Brewer challenges Reform UK spokesman Rupert Lowe over how the party would change the country.

This comes after Nigel Farage set out his goal for Reform UK to effectively take over the Conservative Party – and potentially put him in No 10.

The veteran Eurosceptic, now installed as Reform UK leader and seeking to win the Clacton seat at the General Election, suggested a “chunk” of the Conservatives could join his party.

He compared the situation to Canadian politics, where Stephen Harper had been elected as a Reform MP but went on to head a “new Conservative” government.

Rupert: “The aim is to change the way we’re governed.”

Julia: “You have to be in power to do that!”

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