In this video, to go with the podcast Bunny chats to Craig Sams and Jo Fairley in their town garden.

Craig and Jo have set up several successful businesses both together and separately, including The Beauty Bible, Green & Black’s, Carbon Gold and The Perfume Society. Craig has been chairman and held other positions for the Soil Association too.

Both are keen organic gardeners and foodies. They have an old walled garden in Hastings that looks out to the sea. Jo successfully uses strong contrasting colours – reminiscent of their Green & Black’s packaging, in their house and garden. They have a huge lemon verbena ( Aloysia citrodora) tree, around 3m high and wide with a mature woody trunk, a stunning olive tree which Jo used to woo Sam, and which moved house with them from London. There are also Echiums, Pittosporums and other more tender plants.

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