Okumura Roshi continues his series of talks on his teacher Kosho Uchiyama Roshi's book Opening the Hand of Thought. In this lecture, he begins to talk on the third of Uchiyama Roshi's "Seven Points of Practice": "Zazen must work concretely in our daily lives as the two practices (vow and repentance), the three minds (magnanimous mind, nurturing mind, and joyful mind), and as the realization of the saying 'Gaining is delusion, losing is enlightenment.'" Okumura Roshi mentions that he considers this to be the most important of the seven points. Recorded on September 3rd, 2023.