Jocko Willink and Sebastian Junger — The Tim Ferriss Show
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This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode No. 107 "The Scariest Navy SEAL Imaginable… And What He Taught Me" and episode No. 161 "Lessons from War, Tribal Societies, and a Non-Fiction Life (Sebastian Junger)."

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Timestamps:
[00:00] Start

[06:43] Notes about this supercombo format.

[07:46] Enter Jocko Willink.

[08:15] What separates good leaders from mediocre or bad leaders?

[10:17] Identifying good leadership candidates.

[12:02] Teaching the skill of detachment.

[17:14] Jocko’s grueling workout that made platoons “tap out.”

[19:02] Jocko’s morning rituals.

[21:13] People Jocko associates with success.

[23:28] Recommended reading.

[27:13] How does discipline equal freedom?

[32:06] Enter Sebastian Junger.

[32:37] Thomas Paine and Stoic philosophy.

[34:41] The “chainsaw story” and its impact on Sebastian’s writing career.

[38:43] Athleticism and long distance running.

[39:16] Developing a writing style.

[41:02] Sebastian’s attraction to journalism.

[46:38] Sebastian’s writing style and the importance of structure.

[56:07] Commencement speech advice for high school graduates.

[59:25] Sebastian’s inspiration to visit war-torn countries.

[1:01:30] Explanation of “skin walkers.”

[1:05:16] Striving for political correctness in gender.

[1:11:59] The Iroquois’ peace process and its relevance to modern politics.

[1:19:31] Psychiatric effects of war.

[1:22:23] Bringing primitive, war-time cohesion into modern society.

[1:27:44] PTSD, the C-Train, and returning to New York City after war.

[1:32:40] The lonely nature of society.

[1:36:40] PTSD prevalence in elite special forces units vs. support units.

[1:41:46] How to “support the troops.”

[1:48:03] How a Viking helmet started — and stopped — a barfight in Spain.

[1:53:32] Developing male closeness while decreasing violence.

[1:59:21] Veterans becoming victims in society after returning from war.

[2:03:43] Photography/videography habits and Sebastian’s start as a war reporter.

[2:08:01] Tim Hetherington’s story and Sebastian’s decision to stop war reporting.

[2:11:18] Sebastian’s future writing plans.

[2:12:20] One thing anyone can do for a military veteran.

[2:16:30] Who comes to mind when Sebastian hears the word “successful?”

[2:17:02] Defining courage.

[2:17:08] Most gifted books.

[2:18:02] What close friends say Sebastian is exceptionally good at.

[2:18:25] Combining three writers to create the ultimate writer.

[2:19:03] Advice to Sebastian’s younger self.

[2:20:23] Recent purchase with the most positive impact on Sebastian’s life.

[2:22:32] Something Sebastian believes, despite being unable to prove it.

[2:22:39] Disliked habits and common practices of journalists.

[2:23:55] Advice from Sebastian’s 70-year-old self to his current self.

[2:25:04] Knowing when to write a book.

[2:27:09] Sebastian’s billboard.

[2:28:38] Final requests for the audience and parting thoughts.

Links to everything discussed:
https://tim.blog/2024/06/06/jocko-wil...

Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 900 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.

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