No Nathan this week means The Athletic's Richard Sutcliffe has been promoted off the bench to join Rich following a much-needed win over Crawley Town at the weekend.

The guys discuss the decision to bench Jack Marriott in favour of Paul Mullin, Phil Parkinson's reputation and Sooty gives his verdict on the season so far.

Rich also speaks to Steve from The Orient Outlook podcast ahead of the weekend trip to Leyton Orient, as well as Matt from The Stevenage FC Podcast ahead of Wrexham's midweek trip to the Lamex Stadium.

All that and more in Episode 191 of RobRyanRed.
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