In this interview with Stephen Jenkinson we explore the pitfalls of excess and what wasn't learned in the ocean gate, deep sea vessel tragedy near the titanic. In connection with what we are facing as a global community at this time, I asked him what he, as a death worker, had asked of those who were dying in his care. These and many more subjects combined were brought to life by his immense heart and mind.

Stephen Jenkinson is an author, poet, farmer, musician, teacher and cultural activist. After spending many years as a palliative care worker, he is perhaps best known for his book "Die Wise" and the 2008 documentary "Griefwalker". The breadth of his thought and work however extend far out past the death trade touching many aspects of our culture.

From July 2023 Stephen is on tour with Gregory Hoskins bringing their potent mix of poetry, ceremony and music into many cities around the globe. To check for a performance near you go to:
https://orphanwisdom.com/nights-of-gr...

More info about Stephens work:
www.orphanwisdom.com

Michael Shaw is the director and producer of the documentary "Living in the Time of Dying" for more information, interviews and to find out about our grief ritual groups go to livinginthetineofdying.com