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Eric sits down with Bret Easton Ellis; the two Gen X’ers graduated from rival high schools in a disaffected 1982 Los Angeles that inspired Ellis’ first novel “Less Than Zero”.

In this conversation, they reflect on LA, Generation X, and the different notions of childhood held by Gen x and Millennials. They then discuss Bret's anti-anti-Trump position and Eric's anti-anti-anti-Trump position having both lost patience with the pro and anti-Trump views found in the Republican and Democratic party positions.