John Schulman on how posttraining tames the shoggoth, and the nature of the progress to come...

Timestamps:

00:00:00 Pre-training, post-training, and future capabilities
00:17:21 Plan for AGI 2025
00:29:43 Teaching models to reason
00:41:14 The Road to ChatGPT
00:52:37 What makes for a good RL researcher?
01:01:22 Keeping humans in the loop
01:15:39 State of research, plateaus, and moats

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