In this episode Gregg and Joe are joined by IBM Apptio Senior Director of Product Management Giridhar Shankar. The discussion with Giridhar in this episode is centered around a new IBM offering called Cloudability Premium. Gregg and Joe have covered both topics in previous episodes but we get a better understanding of the offering, how its being positioned, and why IBM decided to create this offering for customers. For those who have seen our previous episodes with Apptio, the FinOps discussions in this episode will be a good review. How do we introduce more personas into the FinOps conversation, and how do we drive collaboration between those personas? Join us and listen in as Giri walks us through the multi-faceted answer to this question.