Author and journalist Erica Gies joins us for a discussion about the deep dysfunction of our relationship with water. Gies reminds us that figuring out what water wants—and accommodating its desires within our human landscapes—is now a crucial survival strategy.

The 2023 series of Under the Redwoods is sponsored by Scharf Investments. This episode is also sponsored by Heritage Bank of Commerce. You can learn more about Under the Redwoods at www.sempervirens.org/under-the-redwoods.