Guest: Professor John Quattrocki, distinguished background in the FBI, DNI, the NSC, and the private sector, as well as being one of the most popular IWP professors for 13 years.

In this episode, Professor Quattrocki discusses the history and evolution of counterintelligence policy in the U.S. government, covering topics such as:

- The origins of the counterintelligence review process in the early 2000s, starting with PDD-75 under the Clinton administration (00:01:02)
- The impact of 9/11 on the counterintelligence review and the shift in focus to counterterrorism (00:16:16)
- The lack of consensus among senior policymakers on the definition and role of counterintelligence (00:23:54)
- The challenges of resourcing counterintelligence efforts compared to the scale of the threat (00:31:05)
- The importance of offensive and strategic counterintelligence, beyond just counterespionage (00:37:18)
- The distinction between recruitment of foreign agents and the use of double agents (00:43:04)

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Where to Find Professor Quattrocki:
- Institute of World Politics: [https://www.iwp.edu/faculty/john-j-qu...]

Where to Find Host Jim Robbins:
- Institute of World Politics: [https://www.iwp.edu/leadership/james-...]