This episode of the PDP (@pabspod) was filmed in Bogota, Colombia my hometown, I invited my artist friend @matcreativo to join me in our airbnb and shoot the shits!

I started subtitling this episode but 10 minutes in it was getting too time consuming so it went back to Spanish,

We had a great time I got to practice my Spanish a lot, and learned so much about Mat. From his upbringing to his dog Broly, our influences in anime, cartoons and how we put it into our art. I like to think of Mat of the version of me in Colombia lol he's a muralist, graphic designer, curates events where he puts on other artist (sound familiar?) Mat also dedicates alot more time into graffiti and spray painting which I admire, he teaches me about "la ley del duende" his most recent event and the saying itself that comes from Colombia, we learn about his favorite method of creating, where he see's himself in 5 years, getting arrested, where his name came from and so much more!


the only way to know it all is to listen all the way through thank you so much for your support, thank you MAT and keep listening/ watching on youtube im excited to meet so many more artists.


Have a great day Make Pigs Fly!