I HATE 9mm (9X19mm). it's worthless, anyone who carries it should......Okay I am exaggerating. The 9mm is a decent cartridge with lots of good merits, but the thing I can't stand is when people will agree that it's high capacity, it's low recoil, it performs within an acceptable parameter of performance....but then go too far with "9mm is JUST as powerful as .357 Magnum" or ".357 Sig is useless because 9mm+P or +P+ is 'just as powerful", which obviously it's not. So here's what a 115 gr 9mm+P looks like in a ballistic gel test VS a 115 gr .357 Sig. Always appreciative of any channel help :) https://www.patreon.com/user?u=5828221