in this podcast Rachel Dines, and Ennio Carboni discuss how capabilities that are part of CloudHealth by VMware can help organizations achieve the maximum benefit of cloud computing. Rachel and Ennio are the leaders of product marketing and product management respectively at CloudHealth by VMware, a company that came to VMware via an acquisition in 2018. The maturity model that that the CloudHealth team has developed reinforces the natural progression that organizations go through as they first embrace cloud computing and then seek to increase their effectiveness in using the cloud to achieve business objectives