Humanists UK Chief Executive Andrew Copson appeared on BBC Sunday Morning Live to discuss Keir Starmer, the government's approach to religious groups in civil society, their role alongside secular groups, and the need for the UK government to treat all groups equally. Andrew warned that loopholes still exist that have allowed religious organisations providing public services to circumvent human rights and equality laws applicable to other groups. He emphasised that Labour should address these structural issues, along with urgent education reforms concerning religion or belief in the curriculum.