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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro
(00:27) Bret Weinstein's Background and Career
(04:37) The Concept of Trade-Offs in Evolution
(06:21) Implications of Evolutionary Trade-Offs
(10:03) The Fourth Frontier and Human History
(11:05) Understanding Evolutionary Rules and Their Broader Impact
(16:08) The Lek Paradox and Biological Puzzles
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(23:41) Market Dynamics and Economic Trade-Offs
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(37:53) The Metaphor of Fitness Landscapes in Evolutionary Biology
(38:47) Civilization's Trade-offs and Sustainability
(39:37) The Concept of Game B
(41:56) Revolutionary Change Without Revolution
(44:03) The Role of Technology in Civilization
(45:44) Exploring Game B Examples
(47:39) Challenges and Opportunities for Game B
(50:30) Moral Progress
(57:00) Shamans vs. Priests and the Importance of Valley Crossing
(01:01:20) Human Adaptation and Evolution
(01:04:39) The Role of Jealousy and Evolutionary Instincts
(01:06:08) Debates with Prominent Thinkers
(01:11:42) Evolutionary Biology and the Future of Governance
(01:14:13) Wrap
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