A listener calls in to discuss how Amazon surveils its drivers. The caller claims that there are cameras inside the van that tracks everything the driver does down to their eye movement, and will regularly issue infractions to the driver even when unwarranted.

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Thanks for taking my call. This is Jordan from Southern California. Jordan from Southern California what's on your mind. Hey, I was calling because I'm an Amazon delivery driver. I'm usually listening to the show while on the road but I took the day off today because I'm sick from the long wake. The cats are talking earlier about AI and how it's threatening the workforce. and I was also remembering the interview Emma that you did with I think it was Adrian Han on gamification and I wanted to get your guys' thoughts on the work environment I'm in every day. Because when I talk to friends and family about it or even other drivers they seem a little ambivalent or even like Pro the surveillance I'm under. Because they believe what Amazon says is that it's all for driver safety and on-the-road safety. Which I think is a total lie and this van is basically Big Brother. Are you guys aware of the degree to which Amazon drivers are surveyed? I mean I'm aware I was more conscious of the factories and I know that there's like a certain timeline and you can you have to be out of the truck for you can't be out of the truck for too long. the bathroom breaks stuff sort of yeah permeated a little bit too. Well but yeah be more specific with this. big there's like a there's a camera under the rearview mirror it is an AI camera surveillance system in all the Amazon vans that have four cameras a forward-facing camera pointed at the road a camera on each side and a camera pointed toward the driver. The camera marks safety infractions and reports them. Not very effectively. As the driver pointed camera looks for distracted driving. Which I have been dinged because I was scratching my face so then I thought I was talking on the phone. It's marked people for screwing off the cap of their water bottles. The camera tracks the driver's eyes so that if you are looking away from the road for five seconds or longer you get a safety infraction. The other cameras also have their own list of safety infractions that it looks for. Wow, that's insane. Yeah, it's insane.