When I was still in "MLM" in 2021, I would never have believed you if had you told me that less than 2 years later, I'd be an antimlm activist and would be interviewing Robert Fitzpatrick (author of False Profits, Ponzinomics and Direct Selling a Nonfiction Fable) as part of my efforts to spread awareness about MLM cultic rackets.

I first saw Robert on LuLaRich and as I've mentioned in interviews, I couldn't hear him when he was speaking...it was like a brick wall came down in my mind and I had to rewind again and again in this monumental effort to try and hear him explain the phenomenon of MLM pyramid schemes.

Fast forward to today, I've had therapy, made new friends and continue to heal.

The language we use to describe the fraud that is MLM is extremely important. Cults use language to control members, and MLM is no different. In order to accurately describe what MLM is it's important to examine what it is not.

In this interview, Robert very clearly explains what MLM is and what it is not and why it's so important to use accurate language in speaking about these cultic rackets.

Robert's website Pyramid Scheme Alert: https://www.pyramidschemealert.org/