This week, host Kai Wright gets "On the Call" with pollster Patrick Toomey of research and consulting firm BSG to talk to talk about results from a recent voter survey that asked voters in seven swing states about Kamala Harris’s experience and fitness to be the U.S. president. Fifty percent of respondents said that Harris “is too unserious to run the country effectively” and 50 percent also said that Harris “will never be taken seriously as a leader.” Toomey breaks down those results, from a Democratic Party perspective.

"On the Call" is a pop-up series by Notes from America on the 2024 election. Listen to the whole conversation on Notes from America, available wherever you listen to podcasts.

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