Originally released February 2022. In her years as Taiwan's "digital minister," programming prodigy Audrey Tang has helped increase the flow of information between government and civil society, and launched original experiments trying to make democracy itself work better. According to Audrey, a more collaborative mentality among Taiwan’s leaders has increased public trust in government, and taught bureaucrats that they can (usually) trust the public in return.

Taiwan's innovations may offer useful lessons to people who want to improve humanity’s ability to make decisions and get along in large groups anywhere in the world.

Learn more and see the full transcript on the 80,000 Hours website: https://80000hours.org/podcast/episod...

Chapters:
• Rob’s intro (00:00:00)
• The interview begins (00:02:04)
• Global crisis of confidence in government (00:07:06)
• Treating Facebook as a nightclub (00:10:55)
• Polis (00:13:48)
• The value of having no reply button (00:24:33)
• The value of getting more specific (00:26:13)
• Concerns with Polis (00:30:40)
• Quadratic voting and funding (00:42:16)
• Sunflower Student Movement (00:55:24)
• Promising technologies (01:05:44)
• Conservative anarchism (01:22:21)
• What Audrey’s day-to-day work looks like (01:33:54)
• Taiwanese politics (01:46:03)
• G0v (01:50:09)
• Rob’s outro (02:05:09)

----

The 80,000 Hours Podcast features unusually in-depth conversations about the world’s most pressing problems and what you can do to solve them.